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The State of Blogging Sucks

February 1st, 2009 · Comments

It all started from a twitter converstation. (Like so many things these days)

Rob Paterson posted a note that after yesterday’s google fiasco, that he is worried about his blog. He tweeted to see if anyone knew a good service for backing up his blog. He then went on to say that he uses typepad for his main blog and that he really likes typepad.

I  did some quick research, typepad has some fundamental problems. Here are some experts of the typepad support page:

Exporting your weblog content does not backup any of the templates associated with your account or files inserted into your posts. There is not a way to backup Basic templates currently, but users with Advanced Templates may want to copy and paste their existing templates into new text files.

Backing Up Your TypeLists

As with posts, you can also export your TypeList content to an OPML file. You are able to export notes from Links, People, Albums and Books TypeLists. The exception in this case is Notes TypeLists. There is not a way to export your items at this time but it may be helpful to copy and paste all notes into a text file for future reference. You can find more information under Exporting TypeList Content.

Backing Up Your Photo Albums

Currently there is not a way to easily backup your Photo Albums. To work around this, view each page in your browser and from the browser menu go to File > Save As > Web Page Complete to save copies of each page to your computer. The best option right now is to keep copies on your computer of photos you upload so that you can upload them again if need be.

You cannot create an archive from which to rebuild your site without A LOT of work, if at all. What the support page doesn’t tell you is that you don’t have a backup of the database that Typepad uses for your blog. Typepad “renders” a page from its database everytime a page is requested. You can only back up that text from renders. This sucks.

In my opinion, this makes typepad unusable.

The wordpress.org site says they make backups. I assume they do. But you have no access to those backups and cannot make off-line backups of the data found in your blog.

If you want to make sure that your wordpress blog is archived, you need to put your blog on a hosted service provider that will backup your database and let you do an off-line backup. I use Dreamhost. Here is the backup screen from their dashboard. I consider this an adequate approach. But you must stay on top of this. You could loose up to thirty days of data.

Back up screen.

To do a bit more on this excersize, I checked out blogger.com. Here is what the support page says.

How do I create a backup of my entire blog?

Blogger does not have an export or download function. However, you can use the following instructions to create a single file with all your posts which you may publish and then copy to your own computer for use as desired.

In other words, blogger.com does not let you create an archive of your blog either. Just the data. Recreating your blogger.com blog should something happen would be difficult if not impossible.

 

Summary

I strongly recommend you find out if your blog is in jeopordy. I am still reeling from the transition to wordpress. I lost years of data, links, discussions. No thanks to Dave Winer. Dave, I love you, but I think you left a ton of us locked into your silo with no way out.

I don’t want this to happen again.

If you use the wordpress.org site. You are vulnerable. If you use the typepad.com or vox.com blogging services, you are vulnerable. If you use blogger.com, you are very vulnerable.

The best solution I have seen so far is to find a service provider that will host your wordpress blog and archive the database for you. You must also do an off-line backup and store backups of the database—not just the posts and pages—of your blog.

Recreating a wordpress blog would still take work, but at least  you can do it.

PS. I scared myself writing this post. The state of blogging really sucks.

Tags: Daily Thesis · feature

  • medcomes
  • T62
    Exporting your weblog content does not backup any of the templates associated with your account or files inserted into your posts.
  • The best solution I have seen so far is to find a service provider that will host your wordpress blog and archive the database for you. You must also do an off-line backup and store backups of the database—not just the posts and pages—of your blog.
  • The best solution I have seen so far is to find a service provider that will host your wordpress blog and archive the database for you. You must also do an off-line backup and store backups of the database—not just the posts and pages—of your blog.
  • I tried typepad, but I don't like it.
    Wordpress is still the best
  • What the support page doesn’t tell you is that you don’t have a backup of the database that Typepad uses for your blog. Typepad “renders” a page from its database everytime a page is requested. You can only back up that text from renders. This sucks.

    Thanks
  • Wordpress is at the end the most powerful blogging tool.
  • Hosted server will be a better option as discuseed as it will help on a long term rather than using free servers hosted by the blog providers.
  • Wow, thanks for the article.

    I agree that backing up your blog is very important.
  • After reading this I thought I would check out the WordPress backup options that I have as I am still quite new to blogging. I have seen that I can export all of my posts, pages, categories, comments and tags; but it does leave me worried that I cannot backup my uploaded images or any of the blog settings to make it easier to re-establish if disaster were to strike. Time to start looking for a hosted solution I think.
  • i agree that there is no way to back up in blogger thanks for the tips
  • you are really right
  • These people infringe all sorts of intellectual rights and other copyrights, many post spam to earn some cheap bucks and this is leading to a mass of useless junk on the net..your article could have highlighted this point also.
  • I do know about the export feature. While this is an ok solution if you are a wordpress user and plan to stay that way. It only helps a little to the blogger that wants to move somewhere else.
  • This article made me think about my blogs. I have to review them again.
  • Very extreme call. I agree there are too many bloggers and many cannot write.
  • tonic07
    very good articles. also need to publish my articles about logo design

    tonic micheal
    http://www.crea8ivedesign.com
  • Wordpress is the best tool. Post is very nice & informative.

    Thanks
    Regards
  • What a useful post here. Very informative for me..TQ friends...

    Cheers,
    gadgettechblog.com
  • cirurgiaplastica
    Very informative for me..TQ friends...
  • There's a plug-in for Wordpress that lets you back up your blog that I've been using. Does anyone know if this plug-in is any good? I'd like to know now if it's not good for restoring your blog BEFORE my blog goes down. Thanks.
  • Wonderful article, thanks for putting this together! "This is obviously one great post. Thanks for the valuable information and insights you have so provided here. Keep it up!"
  • When you have lost your blog, then some content can be saved with Google cache. Though making backups is easier and safer.
  • Great post. I wish you were a man,
  • The topic which you have discussed is very informative as well as valuable for all...Thanks for providing this information for us....
  • SEO
    SEO is very important and cannot be lost or “downgraded” during the transition — your tips will help me get things in the right direction. Perhaps I will publish an article when we’re online in the next 3-6 months and get more details out in my experience of SEO optimization and Drupal.
  • This post makes me think about backuping my blogs...
  • Wordpress is getting better and better, with all those plugins its just awesome
  • davidkey777
    You have the point, guy. I've tried from Typepad, Movetype,... and I ended with Wordpress ;) It's friendly and professional blog platform with many cool features that no others blog system can catch up with.
  • at the very limited export capabilities of Typepad. Even though all of the images in the posts were uploaded and hosted via Typepad, none of that content was exported, just the raw URL in the post text. The URL formats were also inconsistent (I'm guessing they changed their image scheme at some point).
  • the images in the posts were uploaded and hosted via Typepad, none of that content was exported, just the raw URL in the post text. The URL formats were also inconsistent (I'm guessing they changed their image scheme at some point). I wrote some ruby scripts to help extract and migrate the images. The script and instructions are
  • se [s]ftp publishing and publish your Blogger blog at your own web hosting provider. This is the #1 reason that I use Blogger. Also one of the reasons that I use Dreamhost (as you do) is because of their great backup and restore options. I also have a copy of each of my blog posts as an email message thanks to Blogger's option of emailing each Blog post (and comment) to an email address of your choice. Hooray for lots of backups!
  • . I'd like to correct a few things about Blogger - this is a case where our features got out in front of our documentation. (Which is better than the alternative, but still not ideal.) In any event, several months ago Blogger did release an export feature - this exports the entire blog (settings, template, posts, comments) in
  • Wordpress is getting better and better, with all those plugins its just awesome
  • bye to typad for the exact same issue. back up functionality. I did lose a 4 month work. Although I like
  • Thank for the nice articel a have read it on my Netbook
  • Self-hosted blogs are the way to go to be in the safe until blogging services such Typepad work on their backup feature.
  • Thank you for this post. I have just say bye to typad for the exact same issue. back up functionality. I did lose a 4 month work. Although I like wordpress.com, I did opt for self-hosted blog. You have more control and can backup anytime.
  • If Wordpress say that they make backups, but you cannot get access to them then what's the point in haviung backups!? I tend to not go with hosted services like Blogger or Wordpress because of such problems, and also the feeling of being tied in to their sites. Hosting your own wordpress blog is definitely the way to go. This way you can make sure there are backups and you have no limits to what you can do/change on your blog.
  • I think support is the most crucial factor as in whether a company can be successful or not. Word of mouth marketing is really powerful and word of mouth complaints are deadly.
  • The backup feature of Typepad is probably the reason that they are going downhill.
  • I'm not a fan of Typepad, that's why they are not making much progress right now.
  • Me neither, I lost 6 months of work because of it. I'm not really suprised the company is suffering.
  • There's too much platform to choose from these days and gone are the days when everybody were just hovering to blog on Blogger.
  • With this outlook two young and passionate entrepreneurs, graduated from the University of Kalmar sought out to lay the foundations of VIXDAR.
  • Wordpress is at the end the most powerful blogging tool.
  • Nice blog dear...
  • Wordpress is getting better and better, with all those plugins its just awesome
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  • But just in case I too constantly do backup the data.
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  • sumand
    hi
  • thanks
  • But just in case I too constantly do backup the data.
  • Already more than two years I use wordpress for the blog. And while in this time there were no failures in site work. But just in case I too constantly do backup the data.
  • wordpress is the best blog platform.
  • these tips are really handy for any blogger... I always take backups for my blogs... there can be unforeseen troubles and some of them can be fatal even
  • not impressive at all
  • I think the state of blogging sucks because of the amount of spammy blogs that are running on the internet these days. These people infringe all sorts of intellectual rights and other copyrights, many post spam to earn some cheap bucks and this is leading to a mass of useless junk on the net..your article could have highlighted this point also...but one thing good is that people with knowledge about things can share them on a larger platform
  • I also got a note from blogger saying that their documentation was behind the actual functionality of blogger.
  • I really agree with you, still for me wordpress is the best blog platform.. typepad really has its limits and lesser features..
  • This is an impressive post..All point are valid..The typepad has many problems..By using this we may overcome those probs..
  • I just moved a photoblog from typepad to a hosted wordpress site (http://blog.karensphoto.com). I was also shocked at the very limited export capabilities of Typepad. Even though all of the images in the posts were uploaded and hosted via Typepad, none of that content was exported, just the raw URL in the post text. The URL formats were also inconsistent (I'm guessing they changed their image scheme at some point). I wrote some ruby scripts to help extract and migrate the images. The script and instructions are at http://blog.impressivearray.com/past/2009/3/18/.... Hopefully someone else can make use of them and save a lot of time.
  • I also got a note from blogger saying that their documentation was behind the actual functionality of blogger.
  • Another option with Blogger is to use [s]ftp publishing and publish your Blogger blog at your own web hosting provider. This is the #1 reason that I use Blogger. Also one of the reasons that I use Dreamhost (as you do) is because of their great backup and restore options. I also have a copy of each of my blog posts as an email message thanks to Blogger's option of emailing each Blog post (and comment) to an email address of your choice. Hooray for lots of backups!
  • I also got a note from blogger saying that their documentation was behind the actual functionality of blogger.
  • yea, not impressive at all
  • rklau
    (re-posting now that you're on Disqus)

    Craig - Thanks for pointing this out. I'd like to correct a few things about Blogger - this is a case where our features got out in front of our documentation. (Which is better than the alternative, but still not ideal.) In any event, several months ago Blogger did release an export feature - this exports the entire blog (settings, template, posts, comments) into an Atom file that can then be seamlessly imported into a new Blogger blog. If staying with Blogger isn't your thing, we'd all shed a tear for losing you but our Data Liberation Front team in Chicago has open sourced the "Google Blog Converters" that will convert this exported file into the right import format - for LiveJournal, Movable Type, or WordPress. (http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/01/g...) In fact, those same libraries will work just as well moving from any of those formats to any of the others. We at Google feel pretty strongly about this (as you do, and should) this is your data. While I hope that this makes you feel a bit better about our approach, we're of course open to your suggestions about what we could do better.

    --Rick Klau, Business Product Manager, Blogger
    rklau@google.com
  • I also got a note from blogger saying that their documentation was behind the actual functionality of blogger.
  • Well in my own opinion disqus is much better than typepad, yesterday when I checked my disqus account I was surprise for they did some changes well I think disqus is really making some ways to serve for a better service
  • I agree, disqus is a ton better than typepad. I only recently discovered it but I really like it.
  • I did see that. I also got a note from blogger saying that their documentation was behind the actual functionality of blogger. I will point to that link presently.
  • Fitz
    It looks like you linked to an out-of-date help article for Blogger. Did you see this: http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=97...
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